Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.local10.com/news/14138122/detail.html?rss=mia&psp=news 9/18/2007 9:15:14 AM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
I'm still trying to figure out how he was "inciting a riot."
Being an idiot, yes.
Inciting a riot, not even close. 9/18/2007 9:16:31 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
oh my god that was awesome he didnt do anything to get arrested though and i bet his lawyers are going to have a field day with this 9/18/2007 9:20:02 AM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
Watching the video, it's true he just would not shut up.
But tasering him? Oh come on. 9/18/2007 9:20:27 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
still nothing to get arrested for 9/18/2007 9:21:09 AM |
cddweller All American 20699 Posts user info edit post |
With five dudes holding him down already, the only incentive to taser him was his loud ass mouth, which will definately be sounding off in the courtroom sometime soon.
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 9:27 AM. Reason : pigs] 9/18/2007 9:26:53 AM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I didn't say it was. 9/18/2007 9:28:10 AM |
cddweller All American 20699 Posts user info edit post |
Kudos to: 1.) The lady in the aisle who politely stood out of the way so we could see what was going on 2.) Kerry for droning on over the kid's whailing 3.) The kid for voicing every step of the way while the visual is obscured so the jury will be moved ("I'd like to ask my question" / "Why are you arresting me, what have I done" / "Somebody help me" / "Don't tazor me") 4.) The kids for applauding when he was arrested, oh so high and mighty of them. 9/18/2007 9:31:28 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
bitch got what he deserved 9/18/2007 9:33:35 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ I didn't say it was" |
neither did i imply that you did stop trying to start an argument 9/18/2007 9:33:36 AM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
5) Whoever is videotaping for continuing to tape the entire incident. 9/18/2007 9:33:48 AM |
SkiSalomon All American 4264 Posts user info edit post |
cddweller, read the original article all the way through. They had a slightly different take on your #2 and 4 9/18/2007 9:35:43 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Shouldnt they tazer anyone who attends a Kerry speech? 9/18/2007 9:38:05 AM |
cddweller All American 20699 Posts user info edit post |
Alright, alright, I am a woman of little patience.
But the looks on the crowd's faces weren't "Oh yay, Kerry's giving him a chance," imo. 9/18/2007 9:39:09 AM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
wow that was terrifying
all those people sitting there as he screams for help
and not one person doing anything.
not even John Kerry himself - the one man who probably could have done something.
to me, he asked fair questions.
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 9:42 AM. Reason : this kid should be able to retire NOW, thanks to the PD] 9/18/2007 9:42:00 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
This video was taken during and after the incident
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ec_1190097717&p=1
The kid is annoying, yes, but they way over stepped their bounds. Even Kerry wanted to let the kid talk. 9/18/2007 9:42:58 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
9/18/2007 9:46:19 AM |
cddweller All American 20699 Posts user info edit post |
I'd like to see the footage from that camera guy on the left facing the rear, to tell the truth.
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 9:52 AM. Reason : .] 9/18/2007 9:46:27 AM |
soulfire963 Suspended 1587 Posts user info edit post |
I agree he didn't do anything to merit an arrest, but they gotta keep him under control somehow if hes gonna keep spazzing out because they cut him off. 9/18/2007 9:47:12 AM |
cddweller All American 20699 Posts user info edit post |
Why didn't they just pull him outside? He would have shut up once he lost his audience anyways. 9/18/2007 9:52:31 AM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
they shouldn't have cut the mic in the first place
it was an honest question that i would have liked to hear Kerry respond to! 9/18/2007 9:56:04 AM |
SkiSalomon All American 4264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Alright, alright, I am a woman of little patience.
But the looks on the crowd's faces weren't "Oh yay, Kerry's giving him a chance," imo." |
I wasnt trying to call you out, I thought the same thing when I watched the video. Then i read the article 9/18/2007 9:57:20 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
9/18/2007 9:59:32 AM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
It was such an act, especially the wailing on and on in excruciating pain from less than 1 second of tazering okay after seeing the third video it was more like 3 seconds or so, was a good way to play on the girls in the crowd who suddenly freak out with empathy. I think it's sad that it took like 6 cops to get him out of there.
It was excessive, but the cops did tell him to stop struggling and stop yelling at least 5 or 6 times before they tazed him, I think that's a decent case for public disturbance, resisting an officer, etc etc
With several of those huge cops I don't see why they didn't just pick him up and carry him out, they clearly could have.
Even though the kid's a fucking moron he will probably victor in this one...
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 10:05 AM. Reason : ] 9/18/2007 9:59:57 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "all those people sitting there as he screams for help
and not one person doing anything." |
Yeah, I would have at least called the cops.9/18/2007 10:03:26 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Please, fuck those cops. They had no reason to even TOUCH him - Cops are the supreme being in the land who are allowed to go taser anyone who does anything they don't like?
Shit, that's why a good cop-popping is due every now and then - they're a bunch of dickless cunts 9/18/2007 10:03:44 AM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
charged with resisting arrest with violence
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 10:06 AM. Reason : .]
9/18/2007 10:04:22 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
I don't like John Kerry and I don't agree with the shit that guy was saying, but he has a right to fucking say it. I'm sick and fucking tired of these fucking trigger-happy assholes taser-ing everything in sight, including a father holding his baby, senior citizens, and school children. That incident was nothing more than assault under the color of authority.
If I'm exercising my free speech rights and they try to do that shit to me, I'm going to break a couple of fucking jaws and knock some goddamned teeth out. Fucking jack-booted thugs--I hope they get Nifong-ed.
PS: Many cops are not assholes. 9/18/2007 10:07:25 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
^^ His lawyer will make the case that it was an illegal arrest from the beginning and the kid will walk free, as he should.
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 10:09 AM. Reason : .] 9/18/2007 10:09:04 AM |
colter All American 8022 Posts user info edit post |
I've been tazed, it sucks while its on, but after it stops its not that bad, he did overreact a little bit about the pain I think, but fuck those cops, kid was trying to ask a question, jesus. and fuck kerry too, what a douche. 9/18/2007 10:13:48 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
^ to kerry's credit, he did ask that the kid be allowed to speak. 9/18/2007 10:15:07 AM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
that's what I really hate about this kind of situation
police: you're resisting arrest citizen 1: no I'm not police: *physically harassing citizen* now, you're resisting arrest citizen 1: that's because you put your hands on me when you had absolutely no right to citizen 2: why are you molesting Mr. Rogers? police: mind your own business. pretend like you never saw anything. this man is dangerous. citizen 2: how is he dangerous? because he is legally doing something that you don't like? police: citizen 2, get on the ground. you're under arrest. 9/18/2007 10:15:58 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ Exactly--but you forgot this part:
9/18/2007 10:18:27 AM |
cddweller All American 20699 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I've been tazed, it sucks while its on, but after it stops its not that bad, he did overreact a little bit about the pain I think, " | The dude's adrenaline was already sky-high, his drama was fantastic, and he was aware that he was going to get tazored before the actual fact (kind of like being aware of a bee sting while it's going on and panicking vs. looking down to find out what the cause of the sensation is). All of this adds up to produce a class-A reaction.]9/18/2007 10:22:37 AM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62457 Posts user info edit post |
great, another rich moron 9/18/2007 10:23:38 AM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
also....
Quote : | "I've been tazed, it sucks while its on, but after it stops its not that bad, he did overreact a little bit about the pain I think, but fuck those cops, kid was trying to ask a question, jesus. and fuck kerry too, what a douche." |
yes, it does suck while it's going on. I'm not so sure about the 'after it stops its not that bad' part. there are plenty of stories where a policeman thinks he's using non-lethal force with a taser, then gets carried away. One things leads to another, and then someone's heart ends up stopping. Next stop...hospital. Next stop...graveyard.
police: but he was resisting arrest. so I kept tasing him. dead guy: __________________ ghost of dead guy that can't be heard: YEAH, NO SHIT I WAS RESISTING YOU!!1 Wouldn't you resist too if someone was about to kill you!]9/18/2007 10:24:37 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""He apparently asked several questions -- he went on for quite awhile -- then he was asked to stop," university spokesman Steve Orlando said. "He had used his allotted time. His microphone was cut off, then he became upset."" |
He got his time for asking questions (ie he used his free speech) then the moderator said 'time's up', however, he kept going and began to disturb the peace.
Quote : | " Meyer screams for help and asks "What did I do?" as he tries to break away from officers." |
Cops brought out the taser to subdue him. Honestly people, just because someone gets tasered doesn't mean they were wronged.9/18/2007 10:24:40 AM |
cddweller All American 20699 Posts user info edit post |
He got tasered AFTER he was held down by five cops and handcuffed.
Tasers come with the line for a reason, they were meant to be shot at a distance.] 9/18/2007 10:26:20 AM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
Almost looks like they even already have cuffs on him. 9/18/2007 10:26:41 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Just because someone has handcuffs on doesn't mean they're going quietly. Evidently something was happening that made a cop bring out the taser. Even before that, they have 5 cops on this guy to escort him out/shut him up. Then the handcuffs. All of which apparently wasn't enough to do what they needed to do.
I'm just speculating anyway, I can't watch the video 9/18/2007 10:31:19 AM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
He never really stopped squirming away, he was pushing the fine line between compliance and resisting, and it almost seems they were trying to shut him up more than anything, but that certainly backfired. 9/18/2007 10:31:29 AM |
cddweller All American 20699 Posts user info edit post |
If they just wanted to shut him up, like I have said, Quote : | "Why didn't they just pull him outside? He would have shut up once he lost his audience anyways." |
9/18/2007 10:34:55 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sick and fucking tired of these fucking trigger-happy assholes taser-ing everything in sight, including a father holding his baby, senior citizens, and school children. That incident was nothing more than assault under the color of authority. 9/18/2007 10:35:39 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
You use a tazor when you're unsure if the person may have a weapon. There were 6 cops on him. No need for a tazor. 9/18/2007 10:36:47 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
o damn, i missed this little gem
Quote : | " Shit, that's why a good cop-popping is due every now and then - they're a bunch of dickless cunts" |
shooting cops is a bad thing9/18/2007 10:40:28 AM |
Opstand All American 9256 Posts user info edit post |
That was ridiculous. The kid was annoying, but he had a valid question and a valid point that they were carting him away for no real reason. The taser was overkill, the cop that shot him with it should be fired from his job. There were already a number of cops, a couple of them very large, holding the kid down. No need to electrocute him too. 9/18/2007 10:52:19 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Kerry was like "Release that young man, he did nothing wrong" and the cops are like "fuck you botox, go marry another old lady for her millions" 9/18/2007 10:54:53 AM |
gnu01 All American 874 Posts user info edit post |
comedy 9/18/2007 11:03:03 AM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
kerry should have done something.
he had a mic, and could have stopped it well before it reached the point where a fucking taser got pulled out.
all he had to do was tell the cops to back off when they approached him and spent 2 minutes answering the kids irrelevant questions.
Quote : | "After the incident, Capt. Jeff Holcomb of the UPD said Meyer had been charged with disrupting a public event and placed in the Alachua County jail.
Holcomb said there would be an investigation into whether the officers used force appropriately, adding that employing a Taser gun would only be justified in a case where there was a threat of physical harm to officers." |
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 11:23 AM. Reason : .]9/18/2007 11:07:55 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
after watching the video, they should have tasered his ass sooner. What an idiot.
Why is everyone up in arms about the taser? Seriously, they used to just beat the shit out of you with clubs before they had the taser. Its the instant attitude adjustment, and this moron was resisting. No problem with him being tasered. 9/18/2007 11:26:20 AM |